The following interview was conducted by writer and researcher Giuseppe Cosco (Director of the Center for Intelligence and Special Investigations, CIIS) with Maurizio Blondet. Maurizio Blondet is a dissident, traditionalist Catholic investigator who has focused his work on the hidden powers. He has uncovered different power plots around organ trafficking, pedophilia and certain political conspiracies. These works have earned him the systematic attack of the Anti-Defamation League. We reproduce this old interview, which hints at some changes which were already in sight at that time and which today have become reality: the mentions about the Skull and Bones society, through which pass some of the next leaders of the financial political elite of the United States, the plots that some of them carry out from power, or their infiltration into the Church.
Giuseppe Cosco: Doctor Blondet, you have investigated the history of the “Skull and Bones”. What can you tell us about this mysterious secret society?
Maurizio Blondet: This is a secret society, originally reserved for students, and was founded in 1832, when some students from Yale University, one of the leading American universities, were chosen by, say, the American patriciate. There were twelve in number of selected per year. It is well known that Georges Bush Senior, the former President of the United States, was one of them and, before him, his father and, after him, naturally, his son, as far as we can admit that this son can take courses in Yale, which we doubt. The Republican presidential candidate does not have the capacity, in my opinion [note: the interview dates before the election of Bush Junior]. But it can be said with some certainty that he is part of this sect. Maybe not strictly speaking, but he certainly comes from this environment. The Bush family is very close to Harriman’s bankers, who are one of the most powerful groups in the American establishment.
Giuseppe Cosco: Can we say that Skull and Bones also invested in the CIA, because GW Bush, as is well known, was the director of this institution?
Maurizio Blondet: Obviously there is no direct relationship between Skull and Bones and the CIA. Things are not that simple. But it is true that several CIA directors were members of Skull and Bones. In general, the objective of such a society is to form groups of men of the same age, but also intergenerational groups that help each other depending on the circumstances. Something that is also obvious is that we know that the ideology of the brotherhood goes beyond the left and the right. For them, the “right” and the “left” are elements of a dialectic that they take advantage of. Skull and Bones represents a group of Gnostics who very specifically want to participate in all political maneuvers, so much so that they sometimes use the ideology attributed to the “right” and sometimes that attributed to the “left”. These people place themselves above these distinctions anyway. It is no coincidence, for example, that Harriman was the banker appointed ambassador of the United States to the Soviet Union, in this way they could offer very important help to Stalin and his regime, while publicly they have always proclaimed themselves anti-communists. He was part of that group of bankers, whom we no longer remember today, who always supported the Soviet system, even under Gorbachev.
Giuseppe Cosco: To be admitted to the Skull and Bones Society, do you have to be a US citizen or are personalities from other nations also admitted?
Maurizio Blondet: I don’t know. It seems unlikely to me that non-Americans will participate, although we can single out some Brits as members. But what we can confirm is that there are certainly no Mexicans or Italians.
Giuseppe Cosco: So does the history of the “British Israelites” sect have anything to do with the Skull and Bones Society ?
Maurizio Blondet: As far as I know, the British Israelites are not directly related to Skull and Bones.
Giuseppe Cosco: Skull and Bones, since the late 19th century, are suspected of practicing Satanism. Do you think this is likely?
Maurizio Blondet: We can only suspect it. We simply know that there is a ritual with bones, from the Amerindian chief Geronimo, that the group has in its possession. These bones would be kept in a room at Yale, inaccessible to ordinary people, where the initiation ritual takes place every year. The rite is undoubtedly of Masonic origin, as evidenced by its style, where the applicant is found in a coffin, to perpetrate a symbolic ritual of death and rebirth. Then the applicant must reveal things that they are ashamed of and talk about them normally. It is essentially about things related to how you live your sexuality. The ritual must lead to a kind of purification, which also makes this ritual a parody of the Catholic confession.
Giuseppe Cosco: So are you celebrating an esoteric rite?
Maurizio Blondet: Without a doubt. However, it is difficult to say that Satanism is practiced in the strict sense of the term. We also suspect that at some point in the ritual, a priestess intervenes, while the group is made up exclusively of men. Therefore, this woman has a role in this liturgy, but it cannot be defined with certainty.
Giuseppe Cosco: Can we say that former President Clinton was or is part of this Society?
Maurizio Blondet: No. Clinton’s story is different. He received a typically Anglo-Saxon training. He went to study in England and it seems that he acquired a deep disgust for the British universe. Al Gore [note: Vice President during the Clinton administration who would later carry out an environmental plot and who has stepped into the spotlight again during the Greta Thunberg inscenation], on the other hand, is a man from another environment. Al Gore’s family has always been powerful in the American establishment, as has Bush’s, but they are rather part of the establishment considered “red.” Al Gore’s father has always been very close, in commercial terms, to this famous Hammer, a Jew, who was the first to help Lenin. He died at the age of 90, a few years ago, leaving a colossal fortune. Throughout his life, while boasting, he was a Soviet agent. Hammer was very famous: it was he who did the “dirty business” with the Soviet Union and intended to support this political monstrosity, even without the help of the West it would have quickly collapsed. Therefore, it is no coincidence that Al Gore has recently made a “mistake”. A few years ago, the IMF loaned $ 7 billion to the United States in extremely bad conditions. These 7 billion were immediately invested abroad, not a penny entered or invested in Russia. All this money ended up in the account of the “oligarchs”, or of former KGB agents or other personalities, who became “businessmen” in the new Russia.
Giuseppe Cosco: The Skull and Bones company was once defined as an American revival of the Illuminatenorden, or Weisshaupt’s Bavarian Illuminati. What do you think about it?
Maurizio Blondet: It is possible, but I don’t think we can present irrefutable evidence in this regard. We are more likely to face something more general and broader, because the profile of Skull and Bones is not strictly speaking “revolutionary”. It is true that he is internationalist, globalist in the Bush way, but in no way revolutionary.
Giuseppe Cosco: Can we say that this sect is in favor of a global direction, what is called the New World Order?
Maurizio Blondet: That is the meaning that Bush gave it. President Bush (father), during the war against Iraq, was the first to speak openly of the “New World Order” that would emerge as a result of this war. But, from then on, the vicissitudes that animated the planetary chessboard did not unfold exactly as he had thought. In fact, we are dealing with a “New World Order” in action, but we cannot say precisely what the long-term consequences will be. World power is no longer hidden behind the UN mask, but is advancing directly under the stars-and-stripes. The United States remains the only superpower. You no longer need to hide behind the artifice of the United Nations.
Giuseppe Cosco: What is the true face of the so-called “New World Order” that many people consider to be “the highest good”?
Maurizio Blondet: Basically, the “New World Order” is the free movement of capital, even before the free movement of markets, which would be in second place. Then comes the free movement of people, who would be in third position. In fact, on the Mexican border, capital is well accepted, but not people. In this “New World Order”, several current phenomena are explained; Not everyone should be condemned a priori. We need to review some of our usual ideological positions, especially when they are negative. Capitalism, even globalized, works, and not always badly. The countries that benefit from global capitalism are not always “first world” countries, but also countries that are experiencing a revival of vitality and that are reviving their deep cultural peculiarities. This cultural revival was probably not expected. Example: India has become a major software exporter, because all the Indian software giants belong to the Brahmin caste, made up of families in which we know Sanskrit, that is, a classical language, even where they still know an abstract traditional mathematics. Representatives of this breed speak English, produce software in English, which costs less on the world market. Another country affected by globalization would be Spain. This advantage is due to a specific cultural fact. Spain has had an empire for five hundred years. Today, 400 million people speak Spanish worldwide. The Spanish establishment is becoming the dominant economic power in the South American markets. Spanish banks are in the process of acquiring banks in Argentina, Venezuela, etc. I went to Spain recently and noticed that there was no antiglobalist cultural effect, as it exists in France, in Italy and also in Germany. It is no coincidence that antiglobalism takes the face of the left, the one that has generated ineffective world governments.
Giuseppe Cosco: What would you say are the negative aspects of the “New World Order”?
Maurizio Blondet: The negative aspects, obviously, are concentrated in the excess of free movement of purely speculative capital. At the slightest movement of panic, this capital disappears in a few minutes, because now electronic money moves at the speed of telecommunications, suddenly leaving entire countries dry and plunged into serious economic crises. Therefore, the negative elements of the “New World Order” stem from phenomena linked to speculative finance and reveal huge bubbles of unpaid debts. Some Latin American countries experience such effects in a particularly dramatic way. I think for example in Colombia. These countries should specialize in areas where they are competitive. Colombia produces coca. A third of its territory is already controlled by illicit corporations, that have been around for a long time. Obviously a “left” label is given. They are actually made up of drug traffickers, labeled leftists. Richard Grasso the director of the New York Stock Exchange [note: during the years 1995 to 2003] went to visit these de facto terrorists, who terrorized the population, killing children, participating in assaults worthy of Pol Pot of Cambodia, but these events should not have mattered too much to Grasso. Grasso offered to “invest” the money of these mafias in the New York Stock Exchange. If the American financial world is interested in the money of Colombian drug traffickers, it may mean that they will soon legalize so-called hard drugs.
Giuseppe Cosco: Some Catholics are afraid, because the implementation of total globalization will cause the disappearance of the Catholic religion. Do you think this fear is justified?
Maurizio Blondet: Circles wishing for the advent of the “New World Order” are hostile to Catholicism. I’m mainly thinking of Bush. And also of Al Gore. The fight against Catholicism is difficult, it stems from various autonomous phenomena, but I think it is difficult to act directly on the Vatican. The real problem, in my opinion, lies in a kind of final reaction of clerical Catholicism. The Vatican’s high clergy itself seems to adopt a kind of smiling nihilism, which induces them to minimize the strong content of orthodoxy, to provoke major media events, which are ultimately only pure appearances without substance. Things have gone so far that at Christmas, Massimo d’Alema, the head of the left government in Italy, took his wife and children to the midnight mass in Bethlehem [note: In his youth, d’Alema was secretary general of the Italian Communist Party Youth and later leader of the Party. He was the first head of government (1998-2000) of the European Union to come from communism. In 2006 he was appointed Minister of Foreign Affairs of Italy]. It sounds trivial, but it is really surprising: we are dealing with a politician who does not believe in anything and who takes his family to attend, basically, a show of a very suggestive spiritual nature. In my opinion, they want to influence these environments that are now in decline.
Giuseppe Cosco: According to you, is the Church nothing more than a vast suggestive spectacle, destined to impress the masses?
Maurizio Blondet: In fact, we are only dealing with a Church of the spectacle, sponsored by this type of atheistic institutional clericalism, because today there is a deceptive clergy who are on the left and who are atheists. Certain behaviors of the Church, such as the continuous requests for “forgiveness”, leave true Catholics perplexed and, on the contrary, capture the attentive ears of the institutional consensus of the left or of certain layers of the population that was not related to the Church and that it is not religious.